SJM, Theories and Musings, YA Fantasy

Let’s Talk About Tamlin…

If Rhysand gets a free pass, so should Tamlin.

AKA Literary hypocrisy born of author laziness sucks.

No denying the ACOTAR books are popular and that they’ve spawned many demon children along the way. That’s a lot of exposure to romantic and interpersonal ideals that’s being shopped to young, impressionable brains.

Post-ACOTAR incosisties, such as I will outline below make it almost impossible for me to appreciate book one on its own now (when it really is quite good, all things considered). Not only does SJM’s sloppily constructed plot and characterization ruin what is arguably the best book of the series, but it also puts hypocrisy front and center to young, impressionable minds. You need only to refer to Tik Tok (or tumblr or any other social media platform) for the evidence that women think Rhysand is the hero and Tamlin is the zero.

I’m arguing here that they’re at least equal, and that setting different standards for the same behavior is a dangerous ideal to reinforce. Unfortunately it’s something we see regularly IRL (look at how fmr. President Trump gets away with things that multiple others have been imprisoned for), so lord knows it’s not something we need to see in what should be a relaxing pursuit. Sarah J. Maas, in marketing this crap to kids without trigger warnings or clarification, is emphasizing damaging concepts, whether she knows it or not (personally I think she’s too dense to realize exactly how creepy Rhysand actually is).

Note: It would be helpful to refer back to this previous post, as well as the series I did on ACOTAR (search my tags) which provided textual evidence, including page numbers and direct quotes, for most of the points I’ll be making below. Also, I know I’ve discussed a lot of these points in a very helter skelter manner across several posts on this blog, but I thought it made sense to gather the really important stuff under one umbrella here.

Point the First: Control and Free Will

  • The Point: Tamlin controls Feyre by kidnapping her from her family and taking her to Prythian against her will.
    • This allegedly foreshadows his control issues in book two wherein he locks her in the house and won’t let her leave. He admits to locking her up because he was deeply traumatized by seeing her die in book one.
  • The Rhysand Version: He manipulates Feyre into a bargain whereby she needs to spend a week a month with him by playing on her fears of Tamlin. He explains this away in Chapter 54 by saying he just wanted to be near her because he already loved her. This is romantic instead of abusive because they are Mates.
    • Rhysand also puts Feyre in a bubble in ACOSF, but she consents to it. Also, the mating instinct makes him overly protective.
    • He also hides life-threatening info from Feyre because he’s scared for her.
  • To the Contrary: Yes, she was taken against her will, but SJM writes that Tamlin is bound by magic to take Feyre if he has any chance of saving his court and defeating Amarantha. He actually, somewhat selfishly mind you, lets Feyre go at the end at the risk of seeing her die, thus essentially sacrificing himself and his court’s wellbeing. Kidnapping her aside (again, something he’s essentially forced into by virtue of Amarantha’s curse), he never once pressures her into anything, doesn’t try to cajole Feyre into telling him she loves him, and ultimately decides it’s better to send her away to keep her safe if she’s obviously not ready to say the words that will break the curse. Yes, sounds very much like a guy that was controlling from the jump.
  • The Impression You Should Get: Rhysand gets a pass for his good intentions, but Tamlin does not. Rhysand and Feyre are mates which excuses him for his controlling behavior because he literally can’t help himself. He is a mindless automaton at the mercy of his biology, whereas Tamlin is apparently making a conscious choice to be oppressive.

Point the Second: Being a Good High Lord

  • The Point: Tamlin is a Bad High Lord and treats his people poorly because he institutes the Tithe in book 2 and does not make allowances for poor subjects. He insists on the Tithe to keep order in a court that is rebuilding itself. He becomes upset when Feyre shows mercy.
  • The Rhysand Version: Rhysand is progressive and feminist, and Velaris is basically gentrified Brooklyn. Everyone in Velaris is happy. However, everyone in the Court of Nightmares is miserable and sadistic, plus despite him saying he bans wing-clipping for female Illyrians, we see him take no real action to stop it other than a public proclamation, and are shown examples of the practice still occurring. Rhysand’s hands are tied because Illyrians gonna Illyrian. This is okay because hey, at least he tried.
  • To the Contrary: In book one Tamlin quite clearly states that he wants to be a different high lord and does not enforce rank. Rhysand even mocks him for his softness.
  • The Impression You Should Get: Rhysand at least tried to get rid of archaic misogynistic practices, which counts for something. Meantime, Tamlin can’t resort to an admittedly old-fashioned practice even if he may have a good reason (in his own mind, anyway) for doing so. There is no explanation for why good intentions that result in bad practices are okay in Rhysand’s case but not Tamlin’s.

Point the Third: Temper tantrums and physical/sexual abuse

  • The Point: Tamlin has a bad temper in ACOMAF forward and can’t control his outbursts and winds up blowing up and hurting Feyre physically.
  • The Rhysand Version: Rhysand drugs Feyre against her will, makes her dress and dance suggestively in public, and touches her in a sexually suggestive way without her awareness. She is deeply shamed by this and says so. He admits he does this both to keep up the pretense of being evil as a means of protecting his court and also to get under Tamlin’s skin. Tamlin does not lose his cool in this situation, mind you.
  • To the Contrary: We are shown several instances in book 1 of Tamlin not only being able to control his temper (though he admits he has one), and Rhysand even mocks him for his softness. This makes Tamlin abusive.
  • The Impression You Should Get: It’s okay to touch someone against their will because he never touched her private parts. Also, the drugging is okay because he really only wanted Feyre to forget what he absolutely had to do in order to keep his evil mask in place. Attempting to provoke a rival at the same time is ultimately excusable because he was in love(TM).

Point the Fourth: Being a Man of Action

  • The Point: It’s been posited that Tamlin never really loved Feyre in book one because he did not physically fight to free her from Amarantha and often sat passively by when Feyre suffered through her trials. He also doesn’t try to break Feyre out when he has the chance and instead tries to have sex with her. In book 2, Feyre wishes Tamlin would have fought harder for her and Rhysand accuses him of “sitting on his ass” and doing nothing to help.
  • The Rhysand Version: Rhysand surreptitiously helps Feyre win her trials. He also tortures and kills innocents in Amarantha’s name during his 50 year imprisonment, but he had no choice because of the spell/curse he was under. He wasn’t powerful enough to resist her influence when it came to murdering innocents, but he was powerful enough to protect his hidden city for 50 years while the rest of Prythian suffered.
    • Rhysand and Feyre are ironically shown fucking the night before the big battle in book 3 while people are literally dying outside their fuck tent.
  • To the Contrary: According to Lucien, Tamlin is passive because he knows Amarantha is a psycho and doesn’t want to further provoke her ire against Feyre by acting out himself.
  • The Impression You Should Get: Impassivity is okay so long as there’s a plausible reason behind it. Fear for the person you love is apparently not one of those reasons. Wanting to be as close to possible with the person you love even at inappropriate times is acceptable when backed up by a biological imperative.

Point the Fifth: Forgiveness and Healing from Trauma

  • The Point: Both Tamlin and Rhysand suffer trauma at the hands of Amarantha. Tamlin withdraws after this, becoming sullen, reclusive, and paranoid. This eventually drives him to lock Feyre up. This is the wrong thing to do. Rhysand, meanwhile, sets out almost immediately after he’s freed formulating a plan to save Prythian.
    • Both Rhysand and Tamlin suffer some form of sexual abuse at the hands of Amarantha. Rhysand is literally her whore, whereas Tamlin had to suffer her romantic advances for years, beginning when he was a child. With regard to forgiveness, Tamlin must be aware that the way he acted was wrong, because we see him wondering if he’s worthy of Feyre’s forgiveness in ACOFAS. He’s basically a shell of himself and winds up going totally feral in ACOSF, so obviously, not worthy.
  • The Rhysand Version: Rhysand had every advantage post UTM, having Velaris left untouched, whereas Tamlin had to rebuild Spring and deal with all of his people. Rhys basically only cares about Velaris, and leaves the CoN to its own devices, except when he needs to show up to remind everyone he’s still their High Lord or whatever. Feyre doesn’t even think twice about accepting Rhysand’s chapter 54 explanation, but Tamlin needs to continue suffering. Never mind that he has already done plenty to make up for past transgressions (fighting in the war with Hybern, rescuing Feyre’s sisters). Rhysand’s scales are obviously balanced at this point, so the fact that Tamlin is still suffering makes no sense given the fact that objectively, at the very least, they are guilty of many of the same things.
  • To the Contrary: The fact that SJM even tries to show that there’s a right and wrong way to deal with trauma shows that she really knows nothing about the healing process. Tamlin’s mistake after UTM isn’t in how he reacted (it’s quite common to withdraw the way he did), it’s in not getting help and not talking about it. Something, I should mention, that Feyre is equally guilty of.
  • The Impression You Should Get: Rhysand is obviously supposed to be the model for trauma recovery – his court is thriving and he has everything he ever wants. Tamlin is weak because he winds up basically going full Unabomber and staying in beast form. Do I even need to bring up how Rhysand rubs all of this in Tamlin’s face in ACOFAS under the pretense of “checking on him” (when he really has ulterior motives in case war breaks out again) – SJM plays it for laughs and it’s fucking disgusting because Tamlin’s state at the current point in the series is eerily similar to veterans suffering from PTSD that wind up homeless because they don’t know how/can’t deal with what they went through. How is that something to laugh at?

11 thoughts on “Let’s Talk About Tamlin…”

  1. This post is so satisfying. I have been screaming about Feyre being a complete hypocrite (and now given up) ever since I finished the series (with her as MC) and yes, Tamlin’s PTSD is the hardest part to read, because I, as someone who took 15 years because I could peacefully sleep all night without screaming in fear, wanted to see him healed, but I don’t think it will ever happen.

    Also, at the end of book 3, Tamlin saved Rhysand. He absolutely doesn’t have an obligation to contribute but he did, yet, all that seem to be forgotten. SJM seems determined to villainist him.

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  2. Point two is kind of wrong, Rhysand mocking tamlin was part of his cruel ruse that he kept in front of the others, and rhys, really did not enforce rank either

    Point four is also a bit wrong, as in WaR, Rhysand said that, when all the high lords felt their power diminishing, he used the last strength of power he had to shield Valeris and remove Valeris from the minds of the Night Faeries

    I don’t completely disagree, but Tamlin was abusive, so was Rhysand, in a sense, honestly feyre would do better without both

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    1. No I think you’re missing my point entirely. My point is that the excuses he gives make no sense in the context of almost every other event in the book. It’s lazy writing on SJM’s part. My entire point was that every excuse the fandom and SJM herself uses to explain away the bad stuff Rhys has done and is still doing either can or could conceivably be applied to Tamlin as well, so the argument is more or less null.

      So my points are not wrong based on what’s in the text; you just don’t agree with them, which is 100% fine.

      And fyi, the ruse has ZERO to do with him mocking Tamlin privately, in his own ruined home, with only Feyre as witness to it.

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      1. You’re still wrong though. I never said that Tamlin was right for licking Feyre up, but he traumatized her as a response to his own trauma and paranoia. Not out of abject cruelty (like Amarantha or Hybern).

        Rhys in turn treats Feyre cruelly (the pregnancy) but it’s excused because they’re mates. That’s like saying to any normal woman that abuse is okay if the guy really loves you. The motivations behind the way both Rhys and Tamlin treat Feyre post-trauma are IDENTICAL. Rhys just gets a pass because of biology, which is straight up bullshit.

        So again, it’s not that the point is wrong, it’s that you just don’t like what I’m pointing out.

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      2. I do get your point and as I said, both were not a good fit for Feyre, but my points are also valid. Yes, SJM excuses everything for Rhysand and villanizes Tamlin, but I was just pointing out what came of as a bit wrong

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      3. I also didn’t say that Rhysand was right. However, hypocrisy goes both ways. Many people say that Tamlin caused Feyre to be traumatized due to his own trauma and then comment on Rhysand, subtly ignoring how Rhys also has centuries worth of trauma. Obviously, trauma is no excuse for all of that, but if everyone says that the only reason Tamlin did this was because of his trauma and that there are double standards against him, I respectfully disagree, because then Rhys’ cruelty should also be coddled and excused like Tamlin’s. This was the main point of MY THOUGHTS conveyed by the replies I typed and also the pointing out of a few inaccuracies which I thought were there. I’m not wrong, it’s that you don’t want to listen to my points.

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      4. What you said is that my point is wrong, and I’m pointing out that you not agreeing with an opinion doesn’t make it wrong.

        And do I need to point out the irony of you emphasizing your THOUGHTS when that’s what I’ve been saying the whole time? You are wrong for saying a point is wrong when you just don’t like what it’s saying despite the fact that it can be backed up, multiple times, with what’s in the text. It doesn’t matter if that’s what the author intended or not. Burden of proof is on her and she did not do a good enough job of justifying why Rhysand is deserving of forgiveness and Tamlin is not. That’s it.

        And just in case you didn’t get it the ten thousand other times I said it, an opinion isn’t wrong just because you don’t like it. So tell me you don’t agree, fine, but do not tell me I’m wrong. Because I’m not.

        I’m not arguing this with you anymore. If you leave any more comments, they’re not getting approved.

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  3. Point two is kind of wrong since Rhysand also does not enforce rank as has been mentioned in WaR and ACOMAF , if you’re talking about second-in-command type rank, then Tamlin also enforcing such ranks. Rhysand mocking him for it was part of his ruse. I won’t disagree that Rhysand didn’t really enforce the changes, but keep in mind Tamlin knew that it was Ianthe who stole the keys, yet sided with her instead of saving his sentry’s honor.

    Point four- In WaR, it was mentioned that Rhysand felt his powers diminishing the moment Amarantha unleashed the spelling on all the High Lords and that he used the last but f his power before it waned, to shield Velaris and leave it to the Court Of Dreams after wiping the memories of Velaris from the Night Faeries minds.

    Point Five- You can’t measure trauma, but Rhysand had equally as much trauma as Tamlin had after UTM if not more, yet, he did not lock up Feyre or steal her away when he saw she wanted Tamlin, quite contrary to Tamlin, who justifies the locking up as protection. Feyre helped Tamlin with the trauma but he didn’t notice hers.

    I don’t completely disagree, both Rhysand and Tamlin were not a fit for Feyre

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  4. Ngl, this entire book series should’ve ended with Tamlin and Rhysand together and trauma healed together. :]

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